NYU must denounce White Student Union
November 23, 2015
How does political discourse become so corrupt as to produce a white students’ union? That is the question many are asking when, just days after NYU held a diversity forum, an NYU White Students’ Union Facebook page surfaced.
The page appeared around the same time as white student union pages at University of California Berkeley and the University of Illinois, among many others. The NYU group claims to foster a community for “European-American students [who] face unique and immediate challenges that are ignored or even actively denied.”
At a time when race relations continue to dominate conversations on campuses nationwide, the page is completely out of line and has no place at NYU. Given that President John Sexton has pledged to continue the conversation on race and inclusion, the administration should denounce the Facebook page and continue to address the underlying racial tensions which cause these racist beliefs to fester.
The protests at the University of Missouri have resulted in a much-needed conversation about the limits of free speech on college campuses. Media outlets and students alike have put safe spaces for minority students on blast for being impediments to free speech. And yet, when an exclusionary space for white students crops up, whose very existence is predicated on maintaining the racial exclusivity that has plagued the United States for centuries, administrations and pundits swoop down to protect their right to exist.
One post on the page questions, “Is the word ‘diversity’ itself a discriminatory term against whites?” Many of the posters who are rallying to defend the page are not even NYU students, but are leaping to defend the page’s right to spout racist rhetoric. The fact that we’re still stuck on these inane, nonsensical talking points shows just how much work for racial justice still has to be done, and how unproductive white student unions are at advancing that discussion.
At the time of writing, the group has more than 200 members and several posts linking to articles critical of the Black Lives Matter movement. The most recent post from the administrator of the Facebook page cites “security concerns” that arose from “several threatening and racially charged messages” as the reason they will not be holding their weekly meeting. This does not change the fact that white people simply do not experience racism, and the exclusion and threats they now experience are only a small taste of what students of color experience on a daily basis. This page does not represent the values of our university and its students and should be barred from affiliating itself with NYU. The university must come out against white supremacy and moronic white pride.
A version of this article appeared in the November 23 print edition. Email the Editorial Board at [email protected].
Friar Bacon • Nov 17, 2016 at 10:41 pm
You stupid kike faggots. This is a white country.
Howard Sachs • Nov 24, 2015 at 9:40 am
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John • Nov 24, 2015 at 3:56 am
This article seems like a pretty dramatic over-reaction.
It’s certainly true that other ethnic groups have suffered more discrimination and oppression through America’s history, but nobody is denying that. All different groups face different issues in this crazy world of ours.
At the end of the day, white people are just one people among many within a multiracial country… to treat white people differently is to imply that white people are somehow too good or too special or too important to just be treated like all other groups. You may think that white people are more special than others, but plenty of people think that white people should be treated just the same as all others.
So let each group have their own club. My prediction is that the white student union won’t be very active… except in defending their right to exist from bigots who want to treat white people differently.
John G • Nov 24, 2015 at 2:48 am
To the author of this article:
Why do you say white pride is moronic? You would be the first in line to scream racism if someone said black pride was moronic. That seems hypocritical, and leads one to believe that you are racist. I am deeply offended by your thinly veiled racist rhetoric. I am calling on the university to denounce your racist statement and for you to retract it.
Andrea Tito Nespola • Nov 23, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Apparently, a White Student Union is an outrageous thing. Why? I see a conceptual flaw here: If you assume that a White Student Union should be banned because ‘being of european origin’ is the default status, as opposed to be a member of other ethnical groups, then you are falling into the most pernicious form of racism. On the other hand, when you rightly recognize that ethnic membership does not carry qualitative differences in terms of rights and claims, and if you maintain that student unions are–among other institutions–the right way to convey those claims, then you cannot label a white student union as qualitatively different from the others.
The fact that, from a social and historical point of view, people of european origin needn’t to fight for their rights, is merely accidental, and does not affect the meaning of the concepts involved, for it might, at most, lead to the conclusion (that I share and support) that a white student union is superfluous and supererogatory–that is not to say that it should be banned for principled reasons.
A further note. Many religious unions and associations are, qua religious, embodiments of homophobic claims. Furthermore, for who likes arguments based on historical and social facts, it goes without saying that religions have been–and, often, still are–the vehicles for the expression of violent and hateful claims, and the source of justification for violent and hateful actions (I really don’t need to exemplify). So, I don’t understand why people like me who would fiercely defend the right of religious unions and associations to exist (despite my sexual orientations and my atheism) are not blamed for outrageously derail or distort the discourse on human rights.
Schekel Mosheberg • Nov 23, 2015 at 6:00 pm
You guys are mad because a simple page like this can show how racist and bigoted you’re deep down. You talk about white history like other ethnic groups haven’t commited heinous crimes during history. War, genocide, slavery, rape and murder isn’t a “white” thing exactly.
eliana • Nov 23, 2015 at 4:05 pm
There is no White Student Union as recognized by NYU, it does not exist.
Someone (who might not even be a student here) created a FB page to get attention. The people who comment on this page are clearly not even students, just random racists on the internet. It’s literally a bunch of internet trolls and you’re feeding them with the attention they crave.
Ryan • Nov 23, 2015 at 4:01 pm
Why can there be any other kind of student’s union based on race, but not a white one? Apparently there can be “black people” issues, “asian people” issues, “native american” issues, but no “white people” issues? Maybe white people don’t expirence the systemic racism that black people do, but they do experience it. If you want to fight for equality, then do it. If your fight isolates a specific race and disregards their “issues” as being at all relevant, then that’s not equility – you’re fighting for racism.
x • Nov 23, 2015 at 9:46 am
It’s disgusting and misguided that they think this is an appropriate way to organize. They’re obviously blind to history and the world we live in.
However, I would caution that article’s author against this: “This does not change the fact that white people simply do not experience racism…” White people in most of the world do not experience *systematic oppressive racism* like PoC do. But it’s simply ridiculous to say “whites do not experience *racism*” because anyone can experience a racist act. The difference is that a racist incident for a white person is a singular isolated event, but still racist (i.e. instigated by the color of their skin). A PoC on the other hand has to live day to day in fear or discomfort, has to put up with aggressions from the media and from people on the streets, and are victims of unevenly weighted political and economic systems.
But by saying “white people do not experience racism” is marginalizing a large group of people because the term “racism” in this quote is referring specifically to a kind of systematic racism which whites do not face. People who are unfamiliar with this specialized definition of racism take offense at the idea that if someone calls them a “white redneck cracker” that that’s not racist speech. Which it is, but with a different context and not as harmful an impact as systematic racism which PoC face.
Sorry, it just bothers me a lot because most of my family don’t understand systematic racism which is how so much of our dialogue on race is formed nowadays.