Tisch Seniors Spill the ‘Tea’
October 2, 2017
Tisch seniors Angie Jones and Ton Do-Nguyen describe their podcast “Chamomile Tea” as “a podcast about culture, life, love and Beyoncé.” The podcast, which launched in July and is available on iTunes and Soundcloud, thrives off of the banter between the two hosts as they weave together two different cultural backgrounds — a Vietnamese man from the suburbs of Philadelphia and a black woman from Atlanta — into the dynamic conversations that fill up the podcast’s 60-minute runtime.
The two discuss race in media, venting frustrations on cultural misrepresentations and engaging in measured, back-and-forth debates on different social issues. A prominent topic in the first episode is Do-Nguyen’s criticism of the depiction of Asian issues in the media, with the dismissal of the cruelty of the North Korean regime as an example.
The podcast acts as a vessel for both change and understanding. The two bring up topics obscured to the public, educating the listener while learning something new along the way.
“I am not the most educated in [my] field, so it upsets me when even I am not taught things in school about my own culture,” Do-Nguyen said. “Japanese internment camps are not even a full page in the textbook.”
Their quick wit and snappy dialogue allow the co-hosts to carry articulate discussions on difficult topics and give their conversations a fast-paced liveliness. Their friendship and similarities bring them together, while their different backgrounds allow them to challenge each other.
“Chamomile Tea” begins and ends with Beyoncé. According to Jones, without Beyoncé, she and Do-Nguyen wouldn’t have been friends — the artist sparked a four-hour long conversation at a party. The two don’t just admire Beyoncé, superficially, as the “queen” or “goddess,” but rather for her hard work ethic.
“[Beyoncé] is the blueprint for work ethic for me,” Do-Nguyen said. “Why I particularly like talking to Angie is because she understands that Beyoncé’s work is nuanced and ties back to many aspects of culture and history, and I can’t have that conversation with just anybody.”
Jones agreed. “Our complexities about loving Beyonce about being a very well formed entertainer of our time is because there’s just so many layers to her and we both connected to that on an intellectual level.”
Do-Nguyen looks to Beyoncé for her statements on black culture and history that are interspersed in her music and videos.
Looking ahead, the two hope to turn “Chamomile Tea” into a multimedia production company. For now, you can listen to the podcast on iTunes and Soundcloud.
“At the end of the day, we do it for our mamas,” Do-Nguyen said. “… And Beyoncé.”
A previous version of this article stated that Do-Nguyen and Jones met at a party discussing Beyoncé’s “Four,” when in fact they discussed Beyoncé in general; that their YouTube channel boasts 24,000 subscribers, when in fact the channel belongs to Do-Nguyen alone.
A version of this article appeared in the Monday, Oct. 2 print edition. Email Jessica Xing at [email protected].