McInnes: You Are Not A Nazi, Please Stop Harassing Us
February 8, 2017
Today, Gavin McInnes publically threatened to sue Washington Square News via Twitter regarding a line in a news article he considers slanderous. Fifty-nine minutes later, he commented on the article.
“Known for my political position on the holocaust?!” McInnes wrote in his comment. “This is libel. The only thing I’ve ever said about the holocaust was that it’s insane to deny it. Update this lie or I will sue both this newspaper and you personally, Arushi.”
While McInnes has every right to disagree with our article, personally attacking college students is immature and unwarranted.
Unfortunately, McInnes did not stop with threatening to sue. He quickly began tweeting pictures of the editor-in-chief of the newspaper. McInnes took advantage of his status as a public figure and preyed on college students since we are easy targets. If McInnes had been offended by a New York Times journalist, he would not have sought out photos of the the paper’s editor-in-chief to publicly humiliate them. This attack is not about journalistic integrity; it is about McInnes trying to prove his power.
Gavin McInnes shamelessly used — and uses — his public platform to provoke cyber bullying. Although the article’s claims were debatable, the backlash — including comments on people’s appearance and race made by McInnes’s followers in response to his tweets — is entirely inappropriate. In the past, McInnes has attacked people such as Meryl Streep and the entire female gender on Twitter, but publicly humiliating college students working unpaid positions at a learning paper is absurd. They do not have a large Twitter following or public backing to defend themselves from the vast attacks launched at them by McInnes and his followers.
University newspapers serve as spaces for students to develop their journalistic skills. Instead of recognizing this, McInnes turned his followers against young people to simply gain more attention. McInnes’s exploitation of people with less power than himself only reflects poorly on him and his supporters. This behavior is shameful and inexcusable.
While unfavorable implications can understandably cause anger, to respond with harassment betrays the same oversensitivity that McInnes regularly speaks out against. Instead of picking fights with people who lack both his following and social clout by targeting detractors, McInnes would be better off defending himself on principle. Going forward, both sides of this conflict should strive towards accuracy and not stoop to character assassination or unfounded hearsay.
Email WSN Editorial Board at [email protected].
A media mogul • Feb 11, 2017 at 12:07 am
As a media mogul, I recommend you to always receive professional advice from random strangers who introduce themselves as “an editor.” Because this is obviously a very sensible thing to do.
An editor • Feb 10, 2017 at 12:06 pm
To the editors and reporters involved: keep this up and you’ll never get a job in a respectable publication. The internet will always remember your name and recruiters WILL look you up.
Ahmad B • Feb 10, 2017 at 3:26 am
Franklin Wright, are you suing MOMA? I hope you will! That place looks like very rich aunt’s attic and it is the biggest waste of good art in the world.
Jokes and ridicule aside, anyone who thinks the way adults threaten each other with court cases is by writing comments on websites must be twelve. Maybe the comments section of the website should be accessible to members of the NYU community only. That would save us from random fascists of all ages telling us what to do with our campus.
Jessica • Feb 9, 2017 at 8:53 pm
Wow, way to not accept ANY responsibility. Do you even understand the difference between newspaper and blog?
You’re also neglecting to mention that the editor “anonymously” sent a photo after Gavin was peppersprayed with another false story about him crying. That’s why he posted her picture.
You flirted with suggesting he has controversial views on the holocaust at a time when people are accusing him of being Nazi. An accusation which is wildly offensive and baseless. An accusation that had him assaulted at your fine establishment. He has ever right to sue you.
William • Feb 9, 2017 at 8:37 pm
so Editorial Board, when was the last time you beat up your wife?
Felix • Feb 9, 2017 at 11:06 am
McInnes has exposed you, your university, and your paper for the frauds that you are.
http://takimag.com/article/pretending_to_care_about_nazis_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz4YCLJxmbE
Jeffie • Feb 9, 2017 at 10:31 am
I think the only appropiate apology letter should begin with “Pay to the Order of:”.
Super Excited College Student O.M.G. McGee • Feb 9, 2017 at 9:11 am
Dear Madam Editor,
Have you no pride? No shame? It is completely unacceptable to complain about being called out for lying. Slanderously labelling someone a “Holocaust denier” without merit is a heinous offense. It is even more reprehensible to post an article to the effect of “gawd, just like, get over it or whatever”.
Moving forward… You need to remain honest & 100% accurate in ALL future articles, admit you were completely wrong. and formally apologize to Sir Gavin. Ask for his forgiveness, like a decent young lady would. It’s the only way to save your tarnished publication from becoming something like Perez Hilton’s site.
₽$¥€ho • Feb 9, 2017 at 3:37 am
This is a awful retraction. This is the worst retraction I have ever seen in my entire life. Who ever wrote this trash should give up immediately. Honestly it’s disgusting and disturbing. I think you might want to write up another one and scap this crap before you get sued for Libel. Making false accusations about someone is so low and lacks any class whatsoever. Whom ever wrote this should actually be expelled. I am dumbfounded by the sheer amount of lunacy coming out of this university paper it’s shocking. Shame Shame Shame Shame Shame Shame Shame
Justin • Feb 9, 2017 at 1:24 am
Use this as a learning tool. Part of growing is admitting that you made a mistake and we’re in the wrong. Don’t be a Hypocrite when you shove a camera in some one’s face and then they do it back to you. If you want to play with the adults then it’s time to grow up and act like one.
ProudBoys • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:53 pm
The Proud Boys have defeated you!
We will continue to WIN! #WAIDS
NYU News is Fake News! #FakeNews
We will never back down! #NoWanks
The West is the Best #AmericaFirst
We will make you Proud of your Boy #POYB
Tim • Feb 8, 2017 at 6:38 pm
Gavin owned the rice ball editor of this junk news paper for trying to take a picture of him after he was pepper sprayed. Then she called him a Nazi in this paper. Then he threatened to sue her. . I love hearing her grovel and apologize.!!
Jeff • Feb 8, 2017 at 6:33 pm
You lie about a man and he calls you on it. Your response is to admit you lied but then cry about his objecting to your lies by calling it unfair because you don’t have the same number of social media followers?
What the hell does that have to do with you having integrity?
PB's • Feb 8, 2017 at 5:34 pm
We won! You lost! Get used to that! We are Making America Great Again!
This is only the beginning!!!!
NYU is going to be defunded! And your Antifa buddy’s are going to be declared a terrorists organization. We saw that you where communicating with Antifa on your Twitter and we took pictures of that! You were communicating with violent thugs and you will be held accountable for that.
tom m • Feb 8, 2017 at 5:34 pm
do y’all got nothing better to do
Erick S • Feb 8, 2017 at 1:36 pm
You act as if Gavin attacked these precious students unprovoked. Your tone sounds as if your staff members should be treated as contributors to a middle-school paper.
If they have the nerve to publish something that is, by any measure, at least defamatory, they should be prepared to 1) back it up 2) have to withstand at least as much in return.
You occupy the moral and ethical low-ground on this one.
Franklin Wright • Feb 8, 2017 at 12:26 pm
I want you to know Nagasiu because of your “Fake News” article that has influenced other Fake journalists I have been smeared as well. I am going to sue you, NYU, and that supposed “Professor” Rebecca Goyette who I believe works at MOMA as well! Your article was “doxed” and spread onto other “Fake News sites” internationally! You better lawyer up. If these other sites don’t retract by Monday you will be hearing from my attorneys. You will lose. I will win.
I suggest you contact Rebecca Goyette and get her to retract her statement from RT News. I am going to take a picture of this comment and Tweet it out.
Dave • Feb 8, 2017 at 12:05 pm
You attend a school where tuition ranges between $42,000 or $60,000 including room and board and you have the audacity to claim that you are victims? Sure, guys.
This op-ed is infantile. and demonstrates you have a long way to go before you grow up by accepting responsibility for your actions. But I will commend you for fanning the click-bait flames. Keep up the good work and one day you might end up working at Gawker.
Oh wait.
Just remember: Facts don’t care about your feelz. And neither do we.
Wayne • Feb 8, 2017 at 11:50 am
NYU Alum ’08 here. You’re not being harassed, you’re being called out for printing defamatory lies about a public figure in the newspaper of one of the largest universities in the country. You should apologize and strive to be a better journalist, rather than just printing libelous claims about people.
I’d also like to say that I am embarrassed by the way the university faculty and the student body handled this speaking engagement. Speakers should be able to come on campus without the fear of being maced, and should have the opportunity to present differing viewpoints. The student body should engage in discussion and debate, not shouting like babies.
Dan • Feb 8, 2017 at 11:43 am
You absolutely deserve all the backlash by McInnes and his followers. It is libelous and far beyond the code of ethics and journalistic integrity to publish such a scandalous and unfounded lie. Stop with the name calling when someone disagrees with you. “Snowflake” is not on par with “NAZI” as an insult. Please have some decency, please do better.
Michael • Feb 8, 2017 at 11:14 am
Delete your newspaper
uGUU • Feb 8, 2017 at 10:12 am
”University newspapers serve as spaces for students to develop their journalistic skills. ”
And now you’ve learned the hard way not to publish blatant slander. Seems fair to me.
Bob • Feb 8, 2017 at 10:09 am
So let’s get this straight……..you slandered someone you knew before hand is extremely outspoken……accuse him of denying the holocaust and calling him a nazi…..the consequences of that is he is attacked by antifa and pepper sprayed…….yet you publish this article painting YOU as the victim!!
Can you even comprehend the irony? Your lies caused someone to be physically assaulted and had their 1st ammendment rights squashed due to your incompetent “reporting and lies ……that is facisim.
Frankly you deserve to be sued.
Elizabeth • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:57 am
Your paper should apologize. You can’t just say anything you want about someone without proof. The more times you are caught falsifying the more your news paper is proving to be fake news. I’d only buy it now to house train my dog.
Alan John F • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:49 am
A student newspaper must adhere to the same ethics and code of conduct as every other news media outlet. There is absolutely no special deal. A young and inexperience journalist should not be chastising someone as a ‘Nazi’ with no proof. This is despicable journalism, and gives the industry a god-awful reputation. There are no special deals for a lack of experience.
I could perhaps forgive such if each article by “young and inexperienced” “journalists” came with a disclaimer before the article saying “this journalist is young and inexperienced, so please be aware the fairness, accuracy and balance may be completely off the standard expected from reporters of facts”.
Instead of trying to grandstand to the pitiful hierarchy of social justice warriors, it would have been more useful to use this platform to apologise for corrupting journalism. To take this opportunity to instead further attack Gavin McInnes is utterly despicable behaviour.
Simply because Gavin has a larger platform than a terrible student journalist, it does not mean he cannot defend himself. There are no privilege points at stake when someone is accused of being a Nazi.
This is a term banded about by many millennial liberals and progressives, and it is frankly appalling to the people – who died and risked their lives fighting against Nazi Germany. My grandfather will be turning in his grave at the mere mention of a conservative being called a Nazi. It was the conservatives who DESTROYED the Nazis. Not weak, limb-boned left-wing people, who were too afraid to challenge Hitler.
Franklin Wright • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:42 am
Don’t mess with the ProudBoys
#ProudBoys #POYB
We are the media.
We are the culture.
We are the ProudBoys.
And…
We Make America Great Again!!!!
#MAGA
We are going to sue that “Professor” as well! Get ready for a real education!!!!
#ProudBoys #NoWanks #POYB #Uhuru
Jack • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:32 am
Absolutely shameful piece. First, you post clear libel about a renowned author, now you won’t even apologize? Not to mention, nobody apologized for the barbaric riot either. I hope he does threaten legal action. This is SHAMEFUL for college students who are supposed to be America’s future. Nobody in this newspaper should ever write again.
Franklin Wright • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:28 am
Don’t mess with the ProudBoys!#POYB
We are changing the culture. We are going to Make America Great Again #MAGA
We are going to sue that “Professor” as well! Get ready for a real education!!!!
#ProudBoys
Allan • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:19 am
You don’t call someone a holocaust-denier in print and then blame them when they demand you correct it. You are the problem. Mr. McInnes’ response was completely reasonable considering the hysterical accusations made against him.
AliteralNaziOmgggzzz • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:09 am
Let this be a lesson for your young aspiring journalists then. The medias job is to tell the truth. Instead, the left wing media literally just writes opinion articles. They say “IMO this guy i disagree with is a nazi and heres my mental gymnastics to justify that claim”.
Youll literally call any and ALL conservatives “nazis” and its pathetic and wrong. If you dont think publishing an article literally calling someone a nazi is libel then you really have your heads up your commie butts. Im a centrist but i hate the left right now because lefties all seem insane and pathological, and when you go around calling people nazis it just confirms that suspicion. Stop being mellowdramatic hyperbolic liars and maybe you wont face so much backlash.
Everyone • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:08 am
*Inhales deeply*
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH.
I hope you get sued for libel.
Tim • Feb 8, 2017 at 9:02 am
Wow please explore a different career path. You are not good at life.
RealDonald Trump • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:55 am
How about you don’t purposefully slander him and his image and mock him for being maced by one of your cowardly “activists”. Hope you get sued into oblivion!
Ahmad Tariq bin Sausages • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:54 am
If this self-pitying diatribe attempted to teach us anything, it’s that victim blaming is ok when the author does it and it’s problematic and not ok to defend yourself for any reasons other than the ones the author arbitrarily decides are acceptable.
Badly written sophistry.
Anna • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:54 am
Well done to the WSN team for giving up your free time to produce a newspaper. I enjoy reading your articles and opinion pieces. I think it is a shame when people post really personal “speak your mind” comments.
Carol's Boss • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:49 am
Ya blew it… capiche!
Tom • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:43 am
You smeared his name by imposing that he’s fine with burning 6 million people. You are not children, you’re adults, grow up and accept responsibility. There’s no student discount for smearing someone’s character. He is not “targeting” you as a defenseless college student, you’re adults, this is one adult to the next.
“His behavior is shameful and inexcusable”.
WRONG
Character assassination was “performed” on Gavin, Gavin’s response was to not sit and take it. In other words, hold the publisher and writer responsible for their ridiculous actions. Grow up, you’re embarrassing actually mature responsible college students.
idiots • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:38 am
idiots.
Peregrine • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:38 am
I came down here to refute this cowardly article…but I see that you have already been completely blown apart. Listen to these people, for the love of god. Or just quit journalism.
If not,you will become another agent of hate like the media comapnies already twisting this country apart.
Tom • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:34 am
“Editor-and-chief”? Do you mean “editor-in-chief”? Ooops – that’s a fairly major typo. Anyway…
If, as you say, this paper is a place where student journalists can hone their skills, then all of you just got a great lesson: think long and hard about what you write before you commit it to print.
There are no “safe spaces” in a free press. Either stand by the words you write and defend them, or don’t print them. Crying foul this way is infantile and pathetic.
rob Farina • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:30 am
Wasn’t he attacked by those same college students on his way in? I hope he goes thru and sues you guys. You are adults you aren’t weak college students. Figuratively you aren’t but you literally are
JIm • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:29 am
Classic homer article written by a liberal. You should just reply like all other liberals and start saying its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault, its not my fault.
Iabt • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:26 am
Welcome to adulthood. Maybe you should act like one. The law didn’t recognize college students as a protected class. No one cares about your feelz.
Jim • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:21 am
Arushi Sahay is a pedophile and lobster porn enthusiast.
Jon • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:20 am
What a shameful response. This writer called a public figure with over a decade of work online a “holocaust denier” and is upset when they get called out? Imagine if somebody had called you a pedophile with no evidence? Should that stand?
What the hell is a learning paper? Why is this writer employed there if he/she can’t be bothered to do 8 seconds of research on the person they’re attacking?
Unbelievable
Guilder • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:17 am
This is an incredibly embarrassing article. Why can’t this paper take any responsibility for an incredibly shoddy and irresponsible piece it wrote? Instead, here’s a childish article essentially saying “well the guy we called a nazi is a dick no one should like anyways”!
This is honestly depressing to see.
Pat • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:16 am
You are in the wrong. You are fake news. Before you post to a publuc platform do legitimate research…or keep your mouth shut.
Jim Mason • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:15 am
So let me get this straight.
You print the worst kind of lies about another American, and are mad because he defended himself in the only way that would make you fess up? Got it.
Stop acting like ifnhe had asked in a “civilized” fashion you would have responded at all. The only thing that is going to change the culture many in media have come to accept, that destroying and silencing opposing views via lies and slander, is calling them out kn it for the world to see. Then they will begin to actually domtheir jobs again.
Verify someone is actually a “Nazi” before insinuating it maybe, and you will not have this problem.
Uhuru • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:15 am
So you can post lies about him (not allowed legally), but he can’t post true nonsense on Twitter (photos of the editor and his intention to sue)?
Please explain your warped logic.
Gillian • Feb 8, 2017 at 8:00 am
Seems like he was well within his rights and you should probably do some better “investigating” before you post a story that was obviously wrote by a person with no integrity and full of bias. This article is basically you crying and it’s pretty shameful to your whole organization.
Kevin Alborough • Feb 8, 2017 at 7:59 am
“personally attacking college students is immature and unwarranted. ”
Is it? Youre trying to destroy somebody’s career by personally attacking him on a public platform. Why does a college student deserve any more protection than Gavin himself?
“McInnes took advantage of his status as a public figure and preyed on college students since we are easy targets.”
Correction: College students took advantage Mcinnes’ status as a public figure and preyed on him since he is an easy target.
“If McInnes had been offended by a New York Times journalist, he would not have sought out photos of the the paper’s editor-and-chief to publicly humiliate them”
How do you know this?
“This attack is not about journalistic integrity; it is about McInnes trying to prove his power.”
It is absolutely about journalistic integrity. Nobody wants their name to come up in an untrue, slanderous article calling them a Nazi when their name is googled. Its because of bloggers and college papers that these peotests keep happening to speakers. Shame on colleges amd universities for knowingly allowing the spread of dangerous lies. .
…”They do not have a large Twitter following or public backing to defend themselves from the vast attacks launched at them by McInnes and his followers”
They do. If they wrote an article, and got this much attention, they can write another phblicly apologizing. Also, Twitter is an open forum where it doesnt matter who you are, you do not need millions of followers to get your point out there. That said, maybe don’t publiclylie about somebody for more clicks if you cant handle the backlash.
“University newspapers serve as spaces for students to develop their journalistic skills. Instead of recognizing this, McInnes turned his followers against young people to simply gain more attention.”
DEVELOP THE FOLLOWING SKILLS: Honesty. Unbiased reporting. Fact checking. Any actual research. Also you can say “the paper attempts to turn Gavin’s followers and young people against him simply to gain more attention.” Dont act like you dont know calling a person a Nazi or Holocaust denier is going to generate a few more clicks/shares.
“This behavior is shameful and inexcusable.”
Is it more shameful to publicly threaten to sue somebody, or to publicly print a pack of lies (which is illegal). You broke the law. If you throw a brick through my car window (which antifa have done to me) and I have you charged, am i more in the wrong than the vandal because we believe in different things, than he is for destroying my property?
“While unfavorable implications can understandably cause anger, to respond with harassment betrays the same oversensitivity that McInnes regularly speaks out against. ”
Does it?? How about, it demonstrates the absolute liars journalists are, another thing Gavin speaks against. Also, when Gavin talks about this, hes talking about rioters/protesters/”movements”. Having a tantrum in public is illegal and oversensitive. Having a person sued for absolutely breaking the law and literally victimizing you, is fair game and kind of how the legal system fucking works.
“Going forward, both sides of this conflict should strive towards accuracy and not stoop to character assassination or unfounded hearsay.”
Absolutrly. Gavin has always practiced this, maybe your side needs to clean up its act.
Courtney • Feb 8, 2017 at 7:31 am
Instead of trying to shift the blame to Gavin, how about just apologising and not printing blatant lies about people?